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3F推leewatch:大氣電漿很特別= =?221.169.119.103 11/09 00:28. 4F推psilons:他什麼時候有認真辯... 111.82.98.122 11/09 06:40. 5F推tenweli:果真還是要把電漿魔人請 ...
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※引述《builtit(猴麵包樹)》之銘言:
:回應noisefighter
:30公里的氣壓大約是7torr
:你的腔體氣壓是10^-3torr,相差了7000倍
:你也可以試著把磁鐵拆掉,看看電漿能不能點起來...
:其它屬於科學絕緣體的大大,我就不回應了。
讀個漢聲小百科,不代表你懂科學..........
不要以為你讀漢聲小百科裡講太空梭的黑障區在30km高度結束
就代表速度更快的彈道飛彈彈頭也是,事實上電漿會一直糾纏
著彈頭直到落地為止,像下面這一副彈道飛彈落地的照片
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/icbm/Peace_Reentry-kmr.jpg
若是沒有電漿,彈頭是不會拖著這種光尾的
然後,要形成低於5000k的低溫電漿,只需要低於100torr的低
壓就行,這時平均電子路徑夠長,電子能量無法有效傳遞,電
子溫度會遠高於氣體的動能溫度,要形成電漿簡單的要命
100torr高度大概要到十多公里,這個高度連一般戰鬥機都飛
得到,這個高度在大氣科學中可是非常的低
另外,不要讀完了漢聲小百科後就和小學生一樣看到電磁場就覺
得會有磁鐵,一般的氧電漿或是RIE、CVD之類機器的電漿產生器,
裡面沒有任何磁鐵,只有一堆線圈或行波管,你叫別人拔,我還
真不知道他要拆哪一個部位才拆得出磁鐵
用RF或是MW加熱只是因為加熱的比較均勻,低溫電漿用光或是熱
線也有辦法產生,更別提是炙熱的碳碳複材外殼
而就算是高度低於15km,電漿還是會被產生,雖然壓力高於100torr
,氣體溫度要等於電子溫度才會形成電漿,但是因為碳碳複材是
半導體,而且碳被磨耗時也會部份解離,所以還是會有電漿
如果你覺得在常壓下產生電漿事狗屁不合理的事,你可以到這個網站
http://blog.yam.com/user/SlavaRossii.html
你上去他的站貼文和他辯論,如果你辨倒他了,那我就承認你的觀點
,如果沒有,那我還是繼續把你的講法當成狗屁
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1F推kira925:常溫電漿?打開瓦斯爐就有了阿125.233.71.13411/0819:13
解離的比例比較低,所以一般不會直接視為電漿
不然依照廣義的電漿定義,負離子空氣清淨機可是一直噴電漿呢
※編輯:ewings來自:114.137.224.150(11/0820:14)
2F推wsrh:你這叫以其人之道還至其人之身140.118.160.20211/0821:05
3F推leewatch:大氣電漿很特別==?221.169.119.10311/0900:28
4F推psilons:他什麼時候有認真辯...111.82.98.12211/0906:40
5F推tenweli:果真還是要把電漿魔人請出來才對~~210.68.38.21211/0909:55
6F推Ohain:偷偷問一下,誰是電漿魔人@@123.193.64.16511/0916:32
7F推tenweli:樓上這就不懂了~~煙218.166.111.14211/0921:43
8F→PsycoZero:不會是那位已經是傳說的吧...123.192.61.2811/0921:53
9F推noisefighter:請問這種隨著彈落地一直附在彈頭表面140.109.103.22611/1313:56
10F→noisefighter:的電漿能否達到阻礙導航訊號傳遞的程140.109.103.22611/1313:58
11F→noisefighter:度140.109.103.22611/1314:00
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